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GoodRelations - The Web Vocabulary for E-Commerce

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GoodRelations is a standardized vocabulary for product, price, and company data that can (1) be embedded into existing static and dynamic Web pages and that (2) can be processed by other computers. This increases the visibility of your products and services in the latest generation of search engines, recommender systems, and other novel applications.

[goodrelations] GoodRelations and TIWAN ontology

Sherman Monroe sdmonroe at gmail.com
Wed Jun 24 16:30:56 CEST 2009


Hi Steven,

On Wed, Jun 24, 2009 at 5:51 AM, Steven Forth <steven.forth at gmail.com>wrote:

> There is a deeper issue here that we should think about as a community.
>
> Should ontologies be merged or should they be allowed to exist and evolve
> independently, and be used together through name spacing, an simple upper
> level ontology, and site specific rules.
>
>

> My own opinion is that at this point in time it is better to allow
> independent evolution and diversity and find light and loosely linked
> approaches to using different ontologies together.
>
>

Seeing that Martin has produced/proposed such an elegant extension to GR
(i.e. the seeks objectProperty), I suggest that the extension to GR be made.
This will cover about 80% of what is offered by TIWAN. The rest is related
to discussions (i.e. negotiations) linked to the offering, and these can be
tied to GR data using SIOC, thus no further need to modifications. That
leaves about 5% of TIWAN unaccounted for, this deals with service specific
requests, but I have some ideas of how that can be covered with no mods to
GR, please see my reply to Martin's comments for more.

Cheers,
-sherman


> Steven
>
> On Tue, Jun 23, 2009 at 9:06 PM, Kingsley Idehen <kidehen at openlinksw.com>wrote:
>
>>  Martin Hepp (UniBW) wrote:
>> > Hi Sherman:
>> > Thanks - Briefly: I think we should integrate the efforts. Basically,
>> > it is simple to model wants and needs in GoodRelations. You just use a
>> > gr:Offering with the gr:BusinessFunction gr:Sell - this goes with the
>> > batteries supplied in the current version of GoodRelations (even
>> > though I never thought of this application before).
>> >
>> > Example: I am interested in buying one TV set with a screen size of at
>> > least 30 centimeters, and i am not interested in offers more expensive
>> > than 200 euros:
>> >
>> > foo refers to the namespace of the example
>> > pcs refers to the namespace of a fictuous ontology for product types
>> > and features (e.g. eclassOWL or others)
>> >
>> > foo:martinhepp
>> >     a gr:BusinessEntity;
>> >     gr:offers foo:myWant1.
>> >
>> > foo:myWant1
>> >       a gr:Offering ;
>> >       gr:hasBusinessFunction gr:Buy;
>> >       gr:hasPriceSpecification foo:UnitPriceSpecification_1 ;
>> >       gr:includesObject foo:TypeAndQuantityNode_1 .
>> >
>> > foo:myDreamTVSet
>> >       a pcs:TVSet , gr:ProductOrServiceSomeInstancesPlaceholder;
>> >       pcs:hasScreenSize foo:QuantitativeValueFloat_1.
>> >
>> > foo:QuantitativeValueFloat_1
>> >       a gr:QuantitativeValueFloat ;
>> >       gr:hasUnitOfMeasurement "CMT"^^xsd:string ;
>> >       gr:hasMinValueFloat "30.0"^^xsd:float .
>> >
>> > foo:TypeAndQuantityNode_1
>> >       a gr:TypeAndQuantityNode ;
>> >       gr:amountOfThisGood "1.0"^^xsd:float ;
>> >       gr:hasUnitOfMeasurement "C62"@en ;
>> >       gr:typeOfGood foo:myDreamTVSet .
>> >
>> > foo:UnitPriceSpecification_1
>> >       a gr:UnitPriceSpecification ;
>> >       gr:hasCurrency "EUR"^^xsd:string ;
>> >       gr:hasMaxCurrencyValue "200.0"^^xsd:float ;
>> >       gr:hasUnitOfMeasurement "C62"^^xsd:string .
>> >
>> >
>> > In order to make this a bit more beautiful an powerful, I could
>> > introduce a new objectproperty "seeks" that is used instead of
>> > "offers" to link between a business entity and an offering.
>> >
>> >
>> > That would be a minimal change to the vocabulary but would allow to
>> > reverse all BusinessFunctions (e.g. seeks maintance, seeks disposal,
>> etc."
>> >
>> > What do you think?
>> Neat!
>>
>> Kingsley
>>  >
>> > Best
>> > Martin
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > Sherman Monroe wrote:
>> >> Hi All,
>> >> I've considering the GoodRelations ontology for overdogg.com wants and
>> >> needs. Looking at the GR spec [1], I am not able to see anything
>> classes or
>> >> properties for describing wants/needs. I created the Things You Want
>> and
>> >> Need (TIWAN) ontology[2] to model wants/needs as well as reverse
>> >> auction-style marketplace. I would like to know if a merge between the
>> two
>> >> would be something that you would be interested in. I can definitely
>> see
>> >> where GR plugs into TIWAN, e.g. to describe providers/suppliers. Is
>> >> wants/needs within the scope of GR, or should I continue using TIWAN
>> with
>> >> tie-ins to GR?
>> >>
>> >> [1] http://www.heppnetz.de/ontologies/goodrelations/v1#
>> >> [2] http://overdogg.com/ontology/tiwan/
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
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>> >>
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>> >>
>> >
>> > --
>> > --------------------------------------------------------------
>> > martin hepp
>> > e-business & web science research group
>> > universitaet der bundeswehr muenchen
>> >
>> > e-mail:  mhepp at computer.org
>> > phone:   +49-(0)89-6004-4217
>> > fax:     +49-(0)89-6004-4620
>> > www:     http://www.unibw.de/ebusiness/ (group)
>> >          http://www.heppnetz.de/ (personal)
>> > skype:   mfhepp
>> > twitter: mfhepp
>> >
>> > Check out the GoodRelations vocabulary for E-Commerce on the Web of
>> Data!
>> > ========================================================================
>> >
>> > Webcast:
>> > http://www.heppnetz.de/projects/goodrelations/webcast/
>> >
>> > Talk at the Semantic Technology Conference 2009:
>> > "Semantic Web-based E-Commerce: The GoodRelations Ontology"
>> > http://tinyurl.com/semtech-hepp
>> >
>> > Tool for registering your business:
>> > http://www.ebusiness-unibw.org/tools/goodrelations-annotator/
>> >
>> > Overview article on Semantic Universe:
>> > http://tinyurl.com/goodrelations-universe
>> >
>> > Project page and resources for developers:
>> > http://purl.org/goodrelations/
>> >
>> > Tutorial materials:
>> > Tutorial at ESWC 2009: The Web of Data for E-Commerce in One Day: A
>> Hands-on Introduction to the GoodRelations Ontology, RDFa, and Yahoo!
>> SearchMonkey
>> >
>> > http://www.ebusiness-unibw.org/wiki/GoodRelations_Tutorial_ESWC2009
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>>
>>
>> --
>>
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Kingsley Idehen       Weblog: http://www.openlinksw.com/blog/~kidehen<http://www.openlinksw.com/blog/%7Ekidehen>
>> President & CEO
>> OpenLink Software     Web: http://www.openlinksw.com
>>
>>
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Thanks,
-sherman

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